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Bug 771 - menus greyed out upon startup
menus greyed out upon startup
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Fiji
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Plugins
unspecified
Macintosh Mac OS
: P4 normal
Assigned To: ImageJ Bugs Mailing List
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2014-06-11 03:29 CDT by Aryeh Weiss
Modified: 2014-06-16 15:38 CDT
5 users (show)

See Also:

Description Aryeh Weiss 2014-06-11 03:29:00 CDT
When i start Fiji, all of hte menus are greyed out. Nothing can be done. However, Since the IMCF toolbar is open , I can use those buttons. When I pressed "save", it correctly told me that there were no windows open, and hte menus came back.

Sometimes only the help menu is greyed out (which then does not allwo one to report the bug).

Information about your version of Java:

  os.arch => x86_64
  os.name => Mac OS X
  os.version => 10.9.3
  java.version => 1.6.0_65
  java.vendor => Apple Inc.
  java.runtime.name => Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment
  java.runtime.version => 1.6.0_65-b14-462-11M4609
  java.vm.name => Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
  java.vm.version => 20.65-b04-462
  java.vm.vendor => Apple Inc.
  java.vm.info => mixed mode
  java.awt.graphicsenv => apple.awt.CGraphicsEnvironment
  java.specification.name => Java Platform API Specification
  java.specification.version => 1.6
  sun.cpu.endian => little
  sun.desktop => null
  file.separator => /

The up-to-date check says: REMIND_LATER

Information relevant to JAVA_HOME related problems:

  JAVA_HOME is set to: null
  imagej.dir => /Users/amw1/Desktop/Fiji.app

Information about the version of each plugin:

Activated update sites:
ImageJ: http://update.imagej.net/ (last check:20140611004546)
Fiji: http://fiji.sc/update/ (last check:20140611010938)
3D ImageJ Suite: http://sites.imagej.net/Tboudier/ (last check:20140604090506)
Angiogenesis: http://sites.imagej.net/Angiogenesis/ (last check:20140324230848)
BigDataViewer: http://sites.imagej.net/Pietzsch/ (last check:20140411041644)
Bio-Formats: http://sites.imagej.net/Bio-Formats/ (last check:20140523042639)
Biomedgroup: http://sites.imagej.net/Biomedgroup/ (last check:20140611105952)
BioVoxxel: http://sites.imagej.net/BioVoxxel/ (last check:20140519212603)
Cookbook: http://sites.imagej.net/Cookbook/ (last check:20131221011857)
CMCI-EMBL: http://sites.imagej.net/Miura/ (last check:20140328125917)
CMP-BIA tools: http://sites.imagej.net/CMP-BIA/ (last check:20140423173817)
FFMPEG: http://fiji.sc/~schindelin/ffmpeg-plugins/ (last check:20130606182449)
GDSC-SMLM: http://sites.imagej.net/GDSC-SMLM/ (last check:20140610151633)
IBMP-CNRS: http://www-ibmp.u-strasbg.fr/fijiupdates/ (last check:20140526174644)
ImageJ Latex: http://sites.imagej.net/Yul.liuyu/ (last check:20130817015011)
IMCF Uni Basel: http://sites.imagej.net/UniBas-IMCF/ (last check:20140521190037)
LOCI: http://sites.imagej.net/LOCI/ (last check:20140401215514)
MOSAIC ToolSuite: http://mosaic.mpi-cbg.de/Downloads/update/Fiji/MosaicToolsuite/ (last check:20131118114144)
OMERO 5.0: http://sites.imagej.net/OMERO-5.0/ (last check:20140606054302)
ScientiFig: http://sites.imagej.net/Aigouy/ (last check:20140516145525)

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Comment 1 Niko Ehrenfeuchter 2014-06-11 03:33:22 CDT
For the record, the "IMCF Toolbar" is an ActionBar macro coming from our update site.
Comment 2 Aryeh Weiss 2014-06-11 07:39:58 CDT
Yes indeed. And in this case it is good I had it there.
I found that a number of update sites seem to conflict with Fiji/ImageJ2
(not yours).
Trackmate seemed to prevent the ImageJ2 functionality from coming up.
I have the bad habit of putting in all of the update sites (like a kid in a candy store -- so much to try, so little time...).
However, I will now have to be more responsible. 

The problem which I reported with bioformats does not happen on a "clean" Fiji installation.  When I have time, will try to add update sites one at a time and
see when things break. The problem is that if I add all of the update sites, then Fiji launches , but without an ImageJ window. Your toolbar does show, but if I open an image, it will not show up. Show all windows will show not show it, so it is not off screen. Of course I can then not use the bug reporter...

Once in this failure mode, I can only recover by copying a clean jars directory from the installation dmg. So this makes it hard for me to use my usual method of figuring out which update site breaks Fiji, which is the binary search (take 1/2, then 1/2 again etc).

I apologize if this is unclear -- I try to report a bug only when I have it reasonably characterized, which is not the case here. But maybe the experts will see things in this attempt which I dont.
Comment 3 Mark Hiner 2014-06-11 07:40:56 CDT
Hi Aryeh,

 This is also linked to the MOSAIC ToolSuite I believe, as http://fiji.sc/bugzilla/﷒0﷓ although it is less clear what's going on here to me.

 For now, turn off the MOSAIC update site and your menus should work again.
Comment 4 Aryeh Weiss 2014-06-12 23:07:15 CDT
Turns out that removing the IMCF update site solves the issue of greyed out menus. This is true as of this morning's update (13-6-2014)
Comment 5 Johannes Schindelin 2014-06-13 11:07:59 CDT
Good! It seems that this bug can wait a little longer, then, in favor of more pressing bugs ;-)
Comment 6 Niko Ehrenfeuchter 2014-06-13 11:24:29 CDT
I've just tested this on a fresh (vanilla) Fiji, enabling only ours (IMCF) and the required IBMP-CNRS update site (the latter containing the actual jars for the ActionBar stuff).

-> works without any problems (no greyed-out menus)

So at least to me it looks like we (IMCF) are not the problem but maybe some other update site you have enabled?
Comment 7 Aryeh Weiss 2014-06-14 13:10:15 CDT
Quite possible. Here are my enabled update sites.

ImageJ
Fiji
3D ImageJ Suite
Bio-Formats
BioVoxxel
Cookbook
CMCI-EMBL
FFMPEG
IBMP-CNRS
LOCI
Mosaic
ScientiFig

I do not have time to start testing combinations, but if if will get  a chance,
I will let you know what I find.
Comment 8 Mark Hiner 2014-06-16 08:49:18 CDT
Aryeh,

 With all those update sites enabled (and IMCF) I no longer am seeing greyed out menus.

 Can you update your Fiji and test again? I'm wondering if some sites updated things over the weekend and resolved the issue, because I definitely was able to confirm it last week.

Thanks!
- Mark
Comment 9 Aryeh Weiss 2014-06-16 12:06:21 CDT
IMCF toolbar is now enabled and the menus are no longer greyed out.

I should note that these issues seem to be "fluid". That is, something that 
appears to be resolved comes up again.
Comment 10 Curtis Rueden 2014-06-16 12:10:23 CDT
So... can this bug be closed as resolved now?
Comment 11 Aryeh Weiss 2014-06-16 12:37:02 CDT
yes -- if it happens again I will only a new report.
Comment 12 Curtis Rueden 2014-06-16 15:38:19 CDT
Thanks Aryeh.